Legislature(1993 - 1994)

02/17/1993 09:05 AM Senate STA

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  SENATOR LEMAN announced  SB 26 LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS TO BE IN                 
  ANCHORAGE to be up for consideration.                                        
                                                                               
  Number 420                                                                   
                                                                               
  DALE ANDERSON, Juneau, opposed  SB 26 and said that  jobs in                 
  Juneau  is the issue.  Talking  about SB 26 is talking about                 
  the very survival  of his community, he said.   It would cut                 
  the economy here to the quick.  It would eliminate hundreds,                 
  if not thousands of jobs in Juneau.                                          
                                                                               
  This "capitol move bill" is  insidious, because it will only                 
  elevate the divisive factions  across our state.   We should                 
  be  working  on  legislation that  secures  basic  needs and                 
  services for all Alaskans.   We should be turning  our backs                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  on  bill such  as this  that diverts  precious  dollars from                 
  public  policy  away  from  making  sure  we  have  the  key                 
  essentials that government is responsible to provide.                        
                                                                               
  He asked if  this issue  was important enough  to split  the                 
  state again.  Is it important  enough to place his community                 
  on the chopping block?   Is voting politically  correct more                 
  important that voting the way your conscience dictates?   He                 
  asked them to vote as statesmen, not just politicians.                       
                                                                               
  SENATOR MILLER said  one of the biggest  complaints he heard                 
  from his constituents  was lack  of access.   He asked  what                 
  suggestions he had to improve access.  MR. ANDERSON said the                 
  numbers  of state  jobs  has  increased  much  more  in  the                 
  Anchorage area than in Juneau.                                               
                                                                               
  Number 282                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHRISTOPHER CLARK, Juneau resident, said we could use a road                 
  out of here.   Maybe now is the time  to do it.  He  said we                 
  have the  technology to  access people  everywhere.   People                 
  don't  have to  be  in  the room  in  order  to voice  their                 
  opinion.   He said this  city's economic base  is government                 
  even though it is diversifying with  mining and tourism.  He                 
  didn't  see  how  moving  the  legislature would  solve  any                 
  problems the state  is facing.   He said  the technology  is                 
  there to reach you anywhere you are in the state as  long as                 
  you want to be reached.                                                      
                                                                               
  He said housing is a problem that needs to be addressed, but                 
  moving  the  legislature is  not the  answer.   He  said the                 
  future  of  the  state   does  not  depend  on  moving   the                 
  legislature to Anchorage.  It depends  on more people in his                 
  age group (30) moving into the  state and creating tax bases                 
  and  supporting  the  state and  getting  involved  with the                 
  community.                                                                   
                                                                               
  He concluded by  saying we  need to work  with what we  have                 
  instead of moving  the economic  base from one  part of  the                 
  state to another and hurting another part of the state.                      
                                                                               
  CHIP WAGONER, Juneau, said no  matter what moral compass you                 
  have inside of you, this bill is  wrong.  If there was truly                 
  an access problem, there is a lot we can  be doing.  He said                 
  it  would  be a  lot  cheaper  to solve  the  access problem                 
  through telecommunications.                                                  
                                                                               
  MR.  WAGONER said  it not fair  to all concerned.   It would                 
  have  a  devastating impact  on us  whereas  if it  moves to                 
  Anchorage, people will yawn.                                                 
                                                                               
  This bill does not promote good will and better friendships.                 
  This  is a  mean bill.   It tears  this community  apart; it                 
  tears the state apart.                                                       
                                                                               
                                                                               
  This bill is not  beneficial to all concerned.   The benefit                 
  of moving it to southcentral  would be marginal compared  to                 
  the effect down here.                                                        
                                                                               
  Number 140                                                                   
                                                                               
  JOE POOR, Director,  Juneau Chamber of Commerce,  opposed SB
  26 because it poses additional threats to our local economy.                 
  After the announcement of the closing of Greenscreek, Juneau                 
  does not need another threat to the local economy.                           
                                                                               
  According to the  Institute of Social and  Economic Research                 
  at the University  of Alaska, state spending  is responsible                 
  for 46%  of all economic  activity in the  Southeast region.                 
  It  also  projects  a decline  in  state  revenues based  on                 
  declining oil production.                                                    
                                                                               
  Anchorage  has  3,500  more  state  workers  than  currently                 
  employed  in  Juneau.   Perhaps  Anchorage is  worried about                 
  closure   of   their  military   bases  under   the  Clinton                 
  administration and is willing  to devastate another  Alaskan                 
  community for their own gain.                                                
                                                                               
  He questioned the validity  of the fiscal notes  attached to                 
  this bill.  He suggested accurate assessments be  made prior                 
  to  any  further   discussions  on   this  bill.     Alaskan                 
  communities need to  work together if the  projected decline                 
  in   oil   revenues   becomes   a   reality.      With   the                 
  telecommunications  technology we have,  it is not necessary                 
  for  our  legislature to  be  centrally located.   Effective                 
  later this year, the Federal Aviation Administration will be                 
  installing a Global Positioning System  (GPS) at the airport                 
  which will increase  the number of successful  approaches to                 
  Juneau  by  as  much  as  95%.    This  will  be  the  first                 
  installation for commercial purposes  in the United  States.                 
  The US Air Force has been  using this technology since 1971.                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  Southeast   Alaska   may   be  further   impacted   by   the                 
  restructuring within  the National Guard.  This could mean a                 
  loss of about 50%  of the Guardsmen in Southeast  and having                 
  them redeployed in the Anchorage and Fairbanks area.                         
                                                                               
  SENATOR MILLER asked  if GPS is  old technology, why are  we                 
  just now getting around  to using it?  MR. POOR  said it was                 
  relegated  to the  armed  services and  it  has just  become                 
  available commercially.                                                      
                                                                               
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  Number 001                                                                   
                                                                               
  JIM KOHLER,  Director, Southeast Conference,  said the issue                 
  of access is important.  He  said if we are truly  concerned                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  about making the legislative  and administrative branchs  of                 
  our  government more  accessible to  all the  people in  the                 
  state, it is  important to realize that  specific activities                 
  are  under way  to  alleviate this  with telecommunications,                 
  road access, etc.  He volunteered  to bringing a fiscal note                 
  that shows the access issues could be dealt with effectively                 
  for  much  less than  this  particular piece  of legislation                 
  would cost.                                                                  
                                                                               
  He  urged  that we  work at  making  Alaska a  truly unified                 
  strong state and  address the real problems  that are facing                 
  this  state,   for  instance   the  statewide   economy  and                 
  diversification.  He said Greens Creek might not have closed                 
  if over the last several years we, as a state, had  invested                 
  some energy into identifying  and pursuing the  construction                 
  of a smelter activity  that could handle base  metals within                 
  our own state.   This would not only have  kept Greens Creek                 
  here, but it would have increased mineral type activities.                   
                                                                               
  Number 115                                                                   
                                                                               
  LINDA NISSEN,  Juneau resident, said that Juneau  is the hub                 
  of Southeast Alaska.   It  sparkles.  What  draws people  to                 
  Juneau is the legislature.   Anchorage has other industries.                 
  If the legislature leaves, Juneau is lost.                                   
                                                                               
  Number 170                                                                   
                                                                               
  DAN KECK, Sitka, said it is not the legislature's purpose to                 
  create an economic  base for any  community.  It is  to make                 
  laws for the people  of Alaska.  He didn't  think they could                 
  do this job  any better in Anchorage.   He pointed  out that                 
  they would not be  very effective in Anchorage when  all the                 
  support agencies  were still  headquartered in  Juneau.   He                 
  thought if they  really wanted to  move the capital that  it                 
  should go back to Sitka where it originated.                                 
                                                                               
  Number 199                                                                   
                                                                               
  JOHN LITTEN, Sitka Chamber  of Commerce, opposed SB 26.   If                 
  you move  the legislature from Juneau, you can't imagine how                 
  that would affect Sitka, he commented.   He pointed out that                 
  Alaska Airlines now connects with  Boise, Idaho and Spokane,                 
  Washington.  Southeast Alaska can support jet service.   The                 
  legislature  is one of the major reasons why Alaska Airlines                 
  flies  to  Southeast  Alaska.    He  did  not  want  to  see                 
  transportation go backwards, because it  is essential to all                 
  Southeast communities.                                                       
                                                                               
  MR. LITTEN  said if you  look at  any other capitals  in any                 
  other state, they are in more remote areas  where you can be                 
  more focused and have better productivity.                                   
                                                                               
  SENATOR MILLER said  in the past that  Juneau had more  of a                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  willingness to work  with Seattle than  with Anchorage.   He                 
  used the  time difference  issue as  an example  when Juneau                 
  wanted  to  stay on  the  same  time as  Seattle  instead of                 
  aligning with Anchorage.  He wanted to see more  willingness                 
  from Juneau to work with the rest of the state.                              
                                                                               
  Number 260                                                                   
                                                                               
  SENATOR  DUNCAN  said he  had a  list  of people  to address                 
  Senator Miller's concerns.                                                   
                                                                               
  SENATOR  LEMAN said they  would hold  the bill  in Committee                 
  until Friday when they would receive more testimony.                         
                                                                               
  SENATOR  PHILLIPS  said  the  vast  majority,  80%,  of  his                 
  constituents support  moving the  legislature to  Anchorage.                 
  The big problem  is access.  He  said one of the  reasons he                 
  ran for office is to have better access to his constituents.                 
  He said half  the legislators  live within 25  miles of  the                 
  Anchorage area.  He  agreed with the concerns on  the fiscal                 
  note.  He believed the  Senate Finance Committee would  look                 
  at them closely.                                                             
                                                                               
  He said the audio and visual teleconference, if it is a good                 
  thing,  should   work  very  well   with  state   government                 
  communicating with his constituents.  He said this is a bill                 
  to move only the legislature, not the capital.                               
                                                                               
  Road access  to Juneau  he said  would help,  but you  would                 
  still  have to drive  800 miles.   Even if you  have a road,                 
  you're only saving a couple of hours.  He said access to his                 
  constituents is the real concern.                                            

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